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We had some difficulties, but it's not stopping us! The winner will be picked tonight, I'll explain what happened in the post! [Draw #51]
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TL;DR - This post is for the sole purpose of choosing a winner. If you commented in the [Drawing Thread], you are entered in the drawing and don't need to do anything else. By 22:00 UTC, the winner will be selected. The Bitcoin (BTC) blockchain will be used to pick this winner. This can be verified at any device running Python 3.8, and you do not need to own Bitcoin in order to participate. Additionally, all information to replicate the Drawing at home is available on Dropbox and GitHub, scroll down for more information. Importantly, this post WILL NOT BE EDITED in order to keep the integrity of the Drawing. To verify this, there will not be an asterisk during the time passed since its creation. The winner will be announced in a stickied comment. The Problem Alright, so three things happened: First, I overslept. I fell asleep at midnight, and woke up around 8 o'clock. When I noticed this, I gathered the comments at 9 AM ET, which is pretty close to the deadline. Second, I haven't used a PC, Mac, or any other reasonable piece of desktop hardware to run a Python script in years. If it's not through Repl.it on my iPad, it's through Pydroid 3 on my LG V30. I couldn't figure out a way to efficiently run the scripts on Repl.it on my iPad, and as for my phone, it didn't want to parse through the authors. Also, the software I used is Python 3.7, while leroy627 stated it required the use of Python 3.8. In other words, I wasn't able to fully follow through the process of running the scripts due to hardware restraints and lack of the necessary software. I received this error when running getAuthors.py, but I'm not having it stop us. Third, it's just a culmination of real-life conflicts. I honestly hate having to delay the [Draw] post, but otherwise, I hope everything is fine. What does this mean for you all? What happens is that the process of picking the winner is delayed, but not for much longer than what is standard. Also, potential winners will be manually disqualified after an unsuccessful vetting of their account, rather than having it be done automatically, if it comes to that. The Solution The comments have already been collected, we're just going to go through the process that has been established in [Draw #49] and [Draw #39], just with the software usable that's on GitHub (save for getAuthors.py and removeInvalids.py, unless if a fix is possible). The winner will be picked on 22:00 UTC (epoch timestamp: 1582495200) today. DISCLAIMER:Some of the information may be unrevised, but procedures are the same as prior draws. Thank you. Off Topic: The [Discussion] Thread at /millionairemakersmeta is open. All comments are welcome there for any inquiries. [Discussion #51]:https://www.reddit.com/millionairemakersmeta/comments/f8g5fo/_/ Explanation! The Bitcoin (BTC) blockchain will be used to choose a winner. Once the time listed has passed, there will be an active check to determine the blockchain's winning hash. Like before, this subreddit will wait for the 3rd Block after the time (being 22:00 UTC) to select the winner. If a block is discovered by 21:59 UTC, it will not be counted towards the counter of three blocks. If it's discovered by 22:00:00 UTC, then it will, simple. This can be checked by seeing the timestamp given to it by blockchain explorers. You are able to see how this subreddit will verify the winner by checking the Dropbox folder, which also includes a back-up plan in case of an emergency. Standard Protocol: This post will not be edited! This is to prevent tampering of the hash or files by any of the moderators. To prove this, look for the lack of an asterisk near the time since creation. To verify if a hash for a file is that of Draw #51, upload the file of choice to a SHA-256 generator, and match it with its respective hash output. The result you receive should be the same as what is listed here. If you are interested in doing this for yourself, download Python 3.8 and follow the path to the text file here: MM51\OfficialMM51IDs.txt Status Reports: I will be commenting on the progress of the drawing via the comments, so other users can keep track of the progress. These comments will be pinned at the top of the post and be distinguished. Most likely, after 6:00 PM ET, the pinned comment will be announcing the winner. If you can run Python yourself and follow the instructions, you should also be able to find the winner. Make sure the hash released from the blockchain and the total number of participants match with what is described below. In addition, thank you for your patience. Information Used For Draw #51: Dropbox Folder: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ot6hok3e5zt5enl/AACqBWoCAgikuGsdVs6Z5frta?dl=0 GitHub Repository: https://github.com/lilfruini/CommentGathering-MillionaireMakers/tree/master SHA-256 of Primary IDs: a8735f7dacabd6bd279ed096587f49ecaf2225508b7484bdea1739faf4d21949 Block Selection: The Third Bitcoin Block After 23 February 2020 - 22:00:00 UTC Total Participants: 7,860
I've reached the extent that I think I can tell this story. This is my experience with the cult
Introduction I am hesitant to begin writing about these memories, and for two reasons. The first is out of fear - fear of retaliation. You see, I was taken advantage of by a cult that I escaped a few years ago in the summer of 2018. I wasn’t involved for long - ten months - but that wasn’t the end of the cult’s influence on me, as they cleverly had a previously unaffiliated visitor contact me and try to bring me back during the period afterwards. I believe they are still keeping tabs on be covertly, but this may just be my paranoid nature. For nearly the entire first year afterwards, I was always looking over my shoulder to see if I was being followed. They definitely have an interest in roping me back into the fold, as you will see how sociopathic these people are. I’m still traumatized, and although I have healed a great deal from these trials, there is still lingering conditioning that causes me panic attacks and anxiety, which exemplifies my schizoaffective disorder. I attribute much of the reason I’m houseless now to the combination of my mental health and trauma caused by this group. The second reason I am hesitant to begin writing is also out of fear, but this is instead a fear of not being able to deliver on my promise to expose this cult. I know I have the ability to write about my account, but will it be good enough? Will I be throwing these words into the electronic ocean like so many others with little effect on the world? I feel that no matter how hard I try, I will be unable to capture the cult’s devious acts in such a way to convey what it was like for me, a vulnerable individual, to be slowly turned into an obedient slave. Inadequacy. This is an important piece of my psychology. After watching my mother decay and die for the first nine years of my life, followed by being raised by an abusive, narcissistic father, I have a profound feeling of inadequacy ruling me. I never feel like I am good enough; that I have to self-sacrifice - to the point where I believed I had to be as good as Jesus Christ - in order to achieve a passable level of human adequacy. The cult took advantage of these feelings in spades and left me a shell of who I was previously. Fortunately, the period of houselessness that has extended the last year or so of my life has been a radically transformative period where I feel able to step out from barriers that previously trapped me. I feel freer than I ever have been, and to be honest, I owe a lot to the cult for pushing me to my breaking point and learning where my boundaries are. In fact, I don’t believe I could have stepped away from the denial of having a feminine side if it weren’t for the ridiculousness of how far I was pushed. Now, I stand strong, ready to accomplish this mission life has presented me. It is my basic civic duty to tell my story and warn the public about this group and others who prey on vulnerable individuals in an unstable socioeconomic period. They deliberately attract people who are vulnerable for personal or financial reasons. For instance, there was a flat-earther from Belgium who was here illegally that got roped into our group by being attracted to the messages of sovereignty and their abundance of kooky new age beliefs. They even tried to get me to recruit more members using the same strategies they hooked me with - which is standard cult behavior. This leads right into how I got involved with the cult in the first place. Part of it is my fault, as I was young and naive. I still am, but now I have the wisdom to not throw myself out there for any group to start manipulating. There are many people who can be drawn into their preying behavior, and it is important that I elaborate on how easy it is to get duped, so others don’t follow in my footsteps. As you will see, the group was bizarre in many ways. I want to start off by saying that I did not join an organization of pee-drinkers who practiced blood-magick on the side of Main Street. Instead, I started working for a nonprofit that promised to change the world, and appeared to have the ability to do that. The weirdness grew exponentially over time, gradually as they conditioned us to accept their way of life. On my own end, I wanted to join an intentional community; one where everyone involved works towards a singular end as one unit. I longed for the camaraderie and an alternate way of life. I wanted something different than what - as the cult called the common culture - “The Matrix,” or “Babylon” offered. There are such communities, but because of devious groups like this, everyone needs to be cautious when attempting to find them. I still seek to find or create an alternative lifestyle for myself where I can live amongst my brothers and sisters away from the mass-produced consumer culture of the world. It’s been a hell of a journey, but I am happy where I am now. If anything, the group taught me that self-love is our first love; if the gardener does not take care of themselves, then who takes care of the garden? With my efforts to find such a community as I wanted, it was inevitable that some group would have sunk their teeth into me. I am grateful that I was able to recognize the far-flung insanity that I was trapped in and escape. Now I just need to focus on recovering and helping others who may be searching for the same things I am. Chapter 1 It all started early in 2017. I was working on reverse networking, like trying to place a letter on someone’s shoes to let them know I exist. I was hoping to find a project I could use my skills as a writer and juggler by broadcasting who I was on our small online community, The Shrug Life Syndicate, on Reddit. I was so desperate to find such a community that fit my ideals and goals that I didn’t even conceive that someone could be watching in order to learn about me. They first posted a link to their site on our community’s board, when they were still going by the Awakening Sovereignty Collective. To best understand how I perceived them initially, you have to understand that I was lost in what we at the Shrug Life Syndicate call the synchronicity slip stream. An aspect of my schizoaffective disorder, I often get lost in various series of synchronicities that form a coherent narrative that compels me to behave differently than I otherwise would. It is an amazing feature of my mental health for creativity and finding alternative solutions to problems, but it can be debilitating when trying to fit in to the normal world. When the ASC posted, I believed applying on their website was the obvious thing I should do in order to accomplish my cosmic mission. Well, nothing happened at first, and I forgot about them until several months later until I received an email stating I was hired. This came after a series of strange tasks from anonymous accounts that seemed to be tests to see if I was as capable of a writer as I portrayed myself as being. I remember one test was to see if I could write a sales pitch for “Unicorn Poop,” an edible snack with a humorous twist. I don’t have any proof that these two events are connected, but it definitely tripped my radar as odd that they happened one after another, and nothing ever came from the sales tasks. Having passed their tests, I began working with them online. It was a slow process, as there wasn’t a lot of work right out the gate, but there was a lot to learn. Their websites were many in number and often confusing. I had difficulty navigating them and almost quit trying within days of getting started. I remember crumbling back into my addictive nature one night as the wailing cries of depression came roaring back with my initial perceived failure. If I were not partially psychotic, believing the universe was guiding me to the salvation I sought, then that would have been the end of it. Many other people seemed to have given up while I was still new to working for them. If I were to guess, I would say that this was deliberate on their part in order to weed out only people like me, who were in some way desperate to be a part of the group. With only a small number of desperate people finding their way into the clutches of these people, it must be easier to control them as well. The ASC promised a new way of life for anyone seeking it. They claimed to be a planetary alliance that was helping ecovillages, nonprofits, conscious businesses, and individual change agents. They were working on a cryptocurrency and software suite that would help communities better serve the world. This was at the peak of the bitcoin bubble, where many people unfamiliar with cryptocurrencies were trying to get in on the hype. They touted a number of figures and claims which ultimately turned out to be false or otherwise misrepresentative of the truth, but in the moment I believed everything they were shoveling. It was easy for them to sell the idea and project as they were all natural sales personalities. I attended a lot of meetings, particularly with the writer’s team, and started to get to know the people behind the project. In the moment, they appeared to be down-to-Earth and relatable, but highly conscious individuals who really cared about the world and were motivated to do the work necessary to make the changes needed for the planet. In hindsight, they really only cared about money, and were playing a part to catch people like me. The leader was named Dakota, if that was his real name (I believe most of the main group had adopted a second name to hide who they really were). He was a young man claiming to have graduated high school at ten, and he founded a company known as STADA which was facilitating much if not all of the software needs of the ASC. He was brilliant, but I believe most of his brilliance was self-generated through his ability to sell himself as more than he really was. He always acted like a millionaire who was going to change the world, which made it easy for him to sell the project to people like me. The co-leader was named Lila. She was a cheerful person who always had something positive to add to the conversation. While working with her, I found this to be a powerful part of her personality. It was hard to say no to her, as she had a motherly vibe and she strategically would ask you to do things that left you feeling compelled to help her, for the good of the project. She first won me over by claiming to run a retreat center for circus skills. I only heard of this in the beginning of my journey with the group, so I believe it may have been a bogus means to shift my opinion of them. The leader of the writer’s team was named Teahna, who was beautiful and knew how to use her womanly charm to influence others. She seemed to be new to the project as well, having recently written her first book, and my time working with her online seemed to be a learning experience for both of us. I believe this was also planned, so that I would have some support learning what I was supposed to be doing on the various websites that seemed to pile up more and more as time went on. The work was easy at first. There were no assignments or anything like that. It was all pile work - as in, just grab a shovel and get paid for what you move. As a writer, I naturally gravitated to the writers team’s tasks, but I also helped with the education team and the core tasks of the group. Mostly I wrote articles and website content for them, but I also wrote fake twitter bios, social media posts, and began working on their constitution/manifesto before arriving at their headquarters. I was making good money, both in real dollars and their own cryptocurrency, Equality Keys. They claimed we could trade their currency for real money at any time, which turned out to be a lie. They often only let us exchange it at certain times at a reduced value. But, I was naive enough to believe that the numbers on my screen were real and meant I was doing good. It wasn’t long before I earned upwards of thousands of dollars worth of their currency, which was promised to rise in value as the project continued to grow and evolve. After a few weeks working with them, they began toying with a name change to Earth Nation. I believe this is a key part of their method of staying under the radar. By changing names and projects frequently, they never gather enough clout to be exposed as the charlatans that they are. They would later create a new project known as Earth Cycle, and there was a tentacle organization we got hooked into after our stay with the main group called Lovecycle. In regards to the latter, I will never forget the name Lovecycle, as that is when the bulk of bizarre and traumatic events occured. This is around the same time that my girlfriend at the time began helping out as well. We worked together as a writer and artist combo, and they were initially excited to have another person joining to help. There was some friction though, such as bluntly being told they had no need for an artist at this time after they welcomed her onboard, and there were moments where it seemed like they did not want her to be a part of the project. As they turned her and I against each other much later in our odyssey with them, I think this must have been deliberate to sow the seeds of conflict between us. Again, this is classic cult behavior. I regret bringing her into the whole thing, as she is no doubt as traumatized as I am. What really allowed me to lose myself in the hope of the project was the possibility to do exactly as I dreamed: travel with a caravan, juggle at festivals, help sell whatever my girlfriend and others made, and write gonzo journalism about what Earth Nation was doing. One of the main draws of the group was that they advertised in the meetings about how they had a proposal system, where anyone could come with their plan and it could be voted on to be given resources. They were interested in my idea (how much of that was just gaslighting me to believe I’ve found the perfect gig, I don’t know), and wanted me to do some journalism about my experiences moving to their headquarters just outside Eugene, Oregon - on the other side of the country. My girlfriend and I were ecstatic at the idea of starting a new life on the west coast. It was the dream we both shared, to abandon the broken world we knew and join something better. We began preparing for the move, sold all of our stuff, and eventually took off from the airport with only three bags to our name. It was a leap of faith, and we were never happier to embrace our dreams and begin to live a much more interesting life. Chapter 2 We left on October 25th, about a couple months after I first began working for the ASC. It was an amazing trip that we thought would represent our rebirth. I remember arriving at the airport feeling as though I was leaving a part of my past behind. I felt a wave of solemn emptiness and fear over this, but I have since learned such feelings are common with change of this magnitude. Mostly, I felt joy that a new chapter of my life was unfolding before my eyes. It was a time where it seemed like we had infinite potential right at our fingertips. Who knew what would actually go down over the coming months? We were grateful for the opportunity and happy about the change. My girlfriend even changed her name to Awen to start over fresh as a new person. I still stuck with my birth name, Gregory, but eventually I would start going by the name Rory after having been pressured to by the group. I remember looking out the window while Awen took pictures of everything we flew over. It was a trip in itself to see the world from such an angle. I was amazed at the number of wind farms in the middle of the country. Likewise, the closer we got to our destination, the more mountainous the ground beneath us became. The change in scenery would pale in comparison with the change in the culture of the west coast - one of the main reasons I now consider Portland my new home. Landing in Eugene’s airport, we were regaled with Ducks memorabilia. This was a pleasant surprise, as I had forgotten that this was where an old hero from my track days, Steve Prefontaine, used to run. This made me feel hopeful while waiting for Teahna and Prism, the leader of the educational team. I remember pacing the entrance hall of the airport with a giddy smile stretching from ear to ear. This was it, I told myself: I had finally found my new home. After a long day of airline travel, we were eventually picked up in Prism’s van. We were met with hugs and smiles, which rejuvenated us after the natural stress of the trip. We chatted the entire way back to Triangle Lake, where their headquarters supposedly was. Both Awen and I were antsy while being shaken back and forth while sitting on Prism’s bed for the duration of the drive. I distinctly remember the beautiful colors of the autumn trees as we drove past. This last little bit of our trip took roughly forty-five minutes, but it felt like we were pulling up to the headquarters in an instant. I caught a glimpse of a sign as we pulled into the long driveway: Circle of Children. This would be where we stayed for the first two months. The area was gorgeous. Giant trees covered in green moss extended as far as the eye could see. With the abundance of fern-life, it reminded me of a Jurassic paradise. Out the cracked window of the van, I could hear tree frogs chirping in harmony. It was certainly something out of another world compared to the east coast. We stopped in front of the main office - the only building with wifi. If I were to graph the amount of access to the internet we had across the ten months we were involved, it would have a steady, negative slope. Of course, while being conditioned by the group, it was barely noticed, as we grew less dependent on the internet as time went on. We were never barred from the outside world - in fact we interacted with it regularly - but the idea of leaving was made so impossibly far outside the bounds of possible choices through a long series of scripted events. Which is why the entire beginning of our stay at the Triangle Lake Convention Center seemed like something out of a fantasy paradise. Everything, from the overarching narrative we were fed, to the day-to-day interactions, was designed to win us over, gaslight us, and manipulate us emotionally by using our traumas against us. In the aftermath of the whole escapade, I learned that this is the type of manipulation that cults use to prevent members from seeing reason while keeping them docile, obedient work horses for the greater project, whatever it may be. It is clear to me now that Earth Nation and all tentacle organizations are a purely criminal enterprise - a money-making machine for those at the top of the hierarchical pyramid. Even though we were supposedly a DAO - a decentralized autonomous organization - there were clearly people who were centralized leaders profiting from everything the group did. And everybody played their roles well upon our arrival. We were greeted with another barrage of hugs as we got out of the van. Everybody was excited to finally meet us in person, as were we to meet them. We chatted with Dakota and Lila for some time outside of the office. They were the exact same as their online personas. In the moment, this gave us a sense that these people were genuine, but in hindsight it serves as a reminder that anyone can create a convincing character and play them whenever they want - even if they choose to never take their deceptive masks off. We were then shown where we would be staying. Up the hill and to the left we drove until we were in front of Carmen Hall. It was a quaint dorm-style lodging with a large common area and a small kitchenette. Many nights were spent in the common room with the others who were staying in the building. Because we were a couple, we were given the largest room with its own bathroom. That’s another thing that changed in a downward slope: our living quarters. Over the course of the ten months we were with them, we were downgraded from having our own space, to sharing space, to living in a tent. And again, because of the conditioning, we were fine with the change. Sometime during the early evening, we went back down to the dining hall and kitchen which was across the way from the main office. Here, we met a variety of characters, including Tuva, a humble appearing guy with a large social network he brought with him to the project, and Daniella, who would turn out to be mommy dearest as she was the sole woman controlling us for the majority of our adventure on the west coast. A Brazillian native, she was as good of a manipulator as she was a cook, and we all enjoyed a wonderful meal on our first night in Oregon. Before the night was up, we went behind the kitchen to smoke with a man named Grizzly; a wild looking man who mostly kept quiet but had a mouth to use if he needed it. It was the first time we smoked in Oregon and it felt liberating to finally be in a legal state. But, as freeing and fun as being able to smoke whenever we wanted, I believe the abundance of weed we were constantly fed was a means to keep us docile. Daniella always made sure we had some weed, and would frequently smoke with us. I feel I would have been able to say something as things changed if I were not dependent on the constant stream of marijuana. Afterwards, we went back to Carmen Hall with a couple of members who also stayed there, and Daniella performed a pendulum reading for me and my girlfriend. Holding a crystal on a chain, she “read” the direction it spun as she brought it up in alignment with our chakras. She was spot on and I wanted to say that she had excellent observation skills, but I kept my mouth shut. I didn’t want to offend anyone’s beliefs, especially my girlfriend who considered herself a mystic and bought into the act. That night we cuddled in our room, smiling as wide as our mouths could. We had done it - we successfully started our new lives and were going to be a part of something we still had yet to fully comprehend. Everything was new and exciting, and while we were overjoyed, we were glad we had each other because things were still scary. If only we had known then how scary things would become. Chapter 3 The next morning, we showered, dressed, and went down to the kitchen. There was a slight fog in the air, and we saw a family of deer in a clearing off the road. We would see this family of deer several times during out stay at Triangle Lake, which greatly enthused my girlfriend. She said they were a symbol of wisdom, and must be a good sign as we continued to be indoctrinated by the new age beliefs of the group. We were early, as our daily meetings were at ten and that is when most people started to show up at the office. But Grizzly was there, as he stayed at the nurses station that sat next to the main office. He offered us some dabs, which just further enforced our belief that this was a great group to be a part of. He also offered me a metal six-shooter pipe, which proved to be the main piece I would smoke out of for the entirety of our adventure. Breakfast consisted of whatever we could scrounge up. There was a huge walk-in freezer in the kitchen that hosted tons of food when we first got there. There were also a wide selection of dry foods such as figs and nuts. That whole selection would dwindle over time, as the group got everything as donations, usually by soliciting the local food pantries and the Eugene mission and much was close to their expiration dates. It was common to open the freezer and find something moldy. This was the first time I really interacted with Doran. Doran looked a lot like me - complete with similar beard and glasses - but had shorter, curlier, and darker hair. It was joked that “I was another you.” He appeared to be a really kind-hearted person, and we frequently went to him with problems. This is likely planned as well, to have someone to vent the frustrations we were experiencing as the project transitioned to something different than what we signed up for. I opened up to him before I did with other members, even asking for relationship advice as they tried turning Awen and I against each other between, and received what I now consider a long-standing act of being a good ear with standard advice from the group. Still, he was funny and I enjoyed making strange mixtures of food with him. As it neared ten, we shuffled to the office to have our meeting. The office had two rooms, and we were all huddled in a circle in one of them. This was nice during the coming months as it was also the only room with the heater. These meetings proved to be a main means to program us, as there were many exchanges that could have only been scripted. We would often talk about one thing, but there would be a subtopic that was teased that would change the meaning of the whole meeting in the context that I heard it. Often there would be some crosstalk in the kitchen beforehand, or something during the day that warped my understanding of what was said We were required to work thirty hours a week in order to receive our basic income of two hundred dollars a month, as per our agreements before moving to the headquarters. However, it wasn’t long before they duped us by saying the basic income would be used to cover our time staying at Triangle Lake. We weren’t able to fight it, because our tongues were tied by the desire to fit in and be accepted by the group. The ways that they changed things were gradual and deliberate, so that you would never really feel like you were getting taken advantage of. It was just a change, which was alright, because there was a world to save and we were the group who was going to get it done. That was one of the major ways they were able to get away with a lot of the back-pedaling of agreements - they would always have new, unexpected surprises waiting for us. It was gradual, but they introduced several new elements of communal living that required us to sacrifice more of our money and autonomy. They did this by having so-and-so nonchalantly bringing up these concerns in the meetings, then downplaying the resulting effects as something that should be expected, then agreeing with Dakota or Lila. Keeping track of my hours was a joke. For everything I did, I was told I should have taken less time in order to do. The criticism I received came tongue-in-cheek and constructive at first, but steadily devolved into a series of harsh critiques that would leave me distraught and unable to think clearly. I was still unmedicated back then, and my emotional state was as turbulent as a hurricane. They did similar things to my girlfriend, as Lila took her under her wing, treating her as her child in order to take advantage of her own trauma she had with her mother. If there was one thing these people really excelled at it is control. They figured us out quickly and efficiently and then used our traumas against us. Our second night there consisted of an informal group of the residents who stayed at Carmen Hall staring into each other’s eyes and then saying out loud what we felt at that moment. I remember staring at Daniella, who was a silhouette with the lamp directly behind her, and asking for healing. Something about the way she stared at me seemed to provoke a sense of trust and I felt that she would be able to help with a lot of the problems. That’s one way they won over us and got us to do whatever they wanted. They are experts at gaining people’s trust and then they take advantage of that fact. Through these scripted and planned events they were able to warp our realities to the point where we were already robotic slaves right off the bat. We certainly were eager to earn their approval and work our way to a position where we were seen as valuable members of the project. One of these planned events was Kukui’s birthday, which was just a few days after we got there. Kukui was a groundskeeper who had previously lived in Hawaii and was joked as being a ginger Jesus. He was an incredible person who really cared about the Earth. I have no idea if he was part of the manipulation or if he was there on similar beliefs that this was a group doing immense good in the world. Early on during the night’s preparation, Dakota and Lila walked up to us and asked if we wanted to go out to eat with them. This struck us as odd that they would abandon Kukui on his birthday, but we didn’t see it as too weird at the time. We struck up a conversation, where it was revealed that Dakota had two EBT cards from different states. One big hook they sunk into us was the idea that it was us versus the government. They managed to convince us that the institutions of the world were parasitic - which they usually are - but did it in such a way that made us feel like we were in a spiritual war against the bad boogie men of the world. And they managed this by gradually exposing us to more and more deliberate acts of defiance, in order to manifest our own sovereignty against the parasitic government. It’s what led to us accepting some of their more diabolic schemes. For instance, there was talk about building a village in Ava, Missouri, moving all their people in, and then taking over the mayorship. They chose Missouri for this plan due to the different building codes of the state. In the moment, this seemed like a brilliant plan for expanding the influence of Earth Nation, but in hindsight appears to be a dystopian means to increase their power and continue taking advantage of people. These were little seeds they planted that made us more comfortable with doing certain things that we otherwise wouldn’t. Awen was particularly uncomfortable with many of the things we did, but eventually they did get her to help out with their schemes. By keeping us under fear and gradually conditioning us, they were able to make us obedient as we were always looking out for our immediate survival. Fear. That is an emotion I am now excessively familiar with as a result of this cult. While I have battled paranoia all my life, they took those primal emotions and twisted them to the point that I had no idea which way was up. Each day gradually became a battle while being on high alert, as I constantly scrambled to overcome whatever artificial set-backs were planted in my way and keep up with the workload that was presented to me. My first exposure to this form of emotional manipulation came during Halloween. The night began jovially as Doran wore a plastic bag as a costume and invented a new dance that we all participated in. Daniella was preparing a large meal in the kitchen while we helped and played in rhythm to one another. The dinner we shared was only part of the night’s events that would change my life completely. After dinner, Awen and I went back to our room and talked about what we wanted to do that night. The rest of the group was still down at the dining hall and preparing for a fun night of festivities. Awen was not opposed to me going, but she was and still is a pagan and wanted to celebrate her ancestors as per the tradition of Samhain. I debated spending the night with her, but the opportunity to spend time with these new people in our life made me curious as to what they would be doing. I will also admit that I was much more controlled by my addictive nature and was excited to drink with them. So down I went. As I entered the dining hall, I saw that they were drinking tequila and generally having a great time. Naturally, I joined in and took a shot. Jovial times were had, and some time later I was offered another shot, but I did not see them pour this one. This turned out to be a crucial mistake on my part as I would find out that there was something else, something with psychedelic qualities, in the drink. It was not LSD, as I am familiar with the effects of that drug, so I am at a loss for what it could have been. As the night went on I began to feel funny. It wasn’t until we were in a smoke circle that I began to notice something was wrong. I had trouble forming words and when Grizzly asked me a question all I could muster was a “hi!” This tripped me up and I went inside to go sit down. This is where my memory starts to get fuzzy. I was mostly left alone as I sat cross-legged on a mat on the floor, but eventually there were three other people sitting around me, with a bottle placed in the center of us. I remember Prism and Josh, a carpenter who was doing some work on the buildings at Triangle Lake, were two of the people surrounding me, but I don’t remember any of the conversation they were having. I just remember getting really spooked at that time and tried to leave. I don’t know how long it took me to get back to Awen, but I do remember the headlights of a vehicle coming down the hill as I was going up. It was late by the time I made it back in into Carmen Hall, which suggests that I have no memory of what happened after the apparent spin-the-bottle episode. My memory starts to get better as I remember lying there with Awen trying to articulate what was going on, but my words just spiraled into incomprehensible nonsense. She was worried for me, just as I was worried for myself. The next morning continued on as if nothing ever happened, but I was emotionally jostled for the next few days. Nothing was ever said about what happened the night before, and a part of me was terrified that something happened Because my mother had AIDS, and that is a terror I still battle to this day, I obsessed over the idea that Prism, who was HIV positive, may have done something with me. I’ve since been tested and everything’s fine, but for a while I was terrified that I was raped. Was that a rational or irrational fear? I’ll never know. What I do know is that they took advantage of my perturbed state by subtly twisting the knife in the following days with their synchronous set-ups, making me feel guilty that I did not choose to spend time with Awen that night, and thus making me work harder than ever before. Chapter 4 in comments
Hey everyone. I'll start by saying I still cant believe I won. Thank you so much to anyone who donates. I wont be wasting it. Also thanks to lilfruini and everyone involved with this sub for the help and opportunity. I came across this sub a few months ago and subscribed for the hell of it thinking I'd get some good IRL karma by giving a dollar here and there. Never thought I'd win though! Waking up to a bunch of notifications was suprising enough cuz I dont post a ton but when I saw they all said congrats, etc and saw that I won I jumped out of bed and freaked out lol. A little about me, I'm 27 and work at a burger joint, I love music, play guitar and drums, and video games. I've been working towards saving enough to go back to college and get a degree for a few months now but its been tough saving much because of bills and rent. Im looking to get a degree in cybersecurity or general software engineering to make music apps or games. Once again, Thank you to everyone donating and everyone involved. I'm blessed to have this opportunity and will be donating in the coming millionaire maker drawings to pay back hopefully one of you next. *** Everything listed should result in direct lines of payment to survivor256. We ask all users to donate at least $1 USD. The Drawing Thread is also listed for users who want to see the results and confirm the validity of the winner. Drawing: https://reddit.com/millionairemakers/comments/cs2fcz/draw_45/ PayPal: paypal.me/Survivor256 ([email protected]) if paypal.me doesnt work Bitcoin: 3Cj9xoJ4wFKS77teKWJr2xSahLdSsDtgmb Bitcoin Cash: qr2z59xunv6ums2w7m4phh2z4sahea5megnsw3n6qv Ethereum: 0x68FB55FaFC1396A5E62d2e26c6bC1CdA4FeDeb55 Litecoin: MSkrWtqorTUKyqZSzxxcpucqYL6GhNqpSp Dogecoin: DCyUdDUcwQhzcfsTQsNsdxGttBaD1m5sBT Nano: nano_1jq6aoksycmpocbcz77h8turc73ddurd6knwnsmoamk3ogo5qqdx3sfz38ky Edit: 3 days later and still getting donations. Yall are crazy. My totals as of now are Paypal: $507.63 Btc: $37.03 Bch: $7.98 ETH: $7.73 LTC: $3.84 Nano: $15.30 So over $550 as of now. I'm dumbfounded guys. This has been the best week I've had in a while. Thank you again. edit 2: its Sept 8th now and a few more people have donated in the past couple days. All in all I received about $650! Thank you to everyone who donated again. This has been a great month and it's all because of you guys :D Edit 3: So the next drawing thread is up and it mentioned my post. A few more people are donating so maybe I'll make it to a million before the next drawing in 3 days XD lol. Seriously tho this has been a great experience and I'm thankful for every dollar. Good luck to the next winner!
Lessons learned - Crypto and Divorce - In January I was a millionaire thanks to BTC, then my wife divorces me and now I have $30,000 AMA
Crossreferencing u/nanoissuperior He wrote earlier today: https://www.reddit.com/CryptoCurrency/comments/a3n6uw/in_january_i_was_a_millionaire_thanks_to_nano_now/ Title: In January I was a millionaire thanks to Nano, now I have $25,000 AMA I was replying to his post, but my reply ended up being a bit too large as a reply and steered off-topic, albeit an interesting one. So I decided to make it its own post, because there may be a good lessons to be learned and hoping some will come forward with good information to be shared. I hope it can help anyone on this sub avoid the costly mistakes that I made. Here it goes: FLAIR: LEGAL (not in the list) ---- u/nanoissuperior are you who I think you are? I won't give out any further identifying clues, but I happen to know someone in the exact same position that could have written that exact same headline. If you read the first paragraph, you'll know if you know me. The person I know bought Nano really early, based on a tip from a friend. I got in much later. By the time he told me it had already spiked to the $5 range, when I ended up buying. I then sold in the $20's so it was a good buy nonetheless. We were former colleagues at a large, large software company somewhere in the PNW, I left the company to venture out on my own and try to launch some projects I had in mind and relocated overseas for a few years. We lost contact with each other during my time away, but we connected again during the market runup and started exchanging coin information on a daily basis during the big bull run of late 2017. That was a crazy time.... the market trend was a few degrees short of vertical for pretty much all coins! Hey, guess what? Now that I think about it, I could have written that same headline myself! In January 2018 I was a Millionaire too! Not with Nano, but thanks to purchasing a good chunk of Bitcoin in 2011 at $1.20 each. I ended up a single digit millionaire with what I had left in Bitcoin around January of 2018. And, just like you, today, from all that wealth, I have about $30.000 left, with little to show for. Can we call that even? Although my disaster was not caused entirely by market fluctuation; Mine is a more complex story and I am going to mention it, because hopefully, it could serve as a lesson to be learned for any crypto holder out there, so they don't make the make mistake I made: Don't trust anyone. Always be skeptical and watch out for your own interests. Anyhow, here it goes: After 5 years overseas, I had enough and wanted to come back to the States. My wife stated her preference to stay abroad, but eventually, she conceded albeit reluctantly. We chose a small town in CO to settle, and landed in November of 2017. We had plans to settle down and considered purchasing a home with my/our new fortune, based on the market price during that period. At the same time, I was also hesitant about the inherent tax payments due caused by such large liquidation. I was trying to have to pay taxes as far away as possible. So, I decided to wait till New Year's Eve and started liquidating my crypto on January 1st, 2018 right after midnight. This way, I would have 16 months (till April, 2019) to pay any capital gains taxes, and I was confident at the time that the market would give me that for free, especially at the pace that it was going. I have been an early adopter and have since then acquired the high levels of verification and trading limits per week, with many exchanges, but for a large sum like this, I needed several separate transactions, over the course of several weeks, especially wanting to do it with a US-based exchange that was linked to a US bank accounts, to avoid overseas wire transfers, meaning more fees. (Yes, I did look at all OTC options, but for reasons not relevant to the story, I couldn't make it happen, so I had to use the traditional Exchange channels for asset liquidation). My wife and I, initially had some fundamental disagreements on the gross amount to be spent and the type of property we should be purchasing. I wanted a smaller place, with a denser, younger community, where there'd be kids our son's age for him to play. She insisted that we should go big; we had been traveling for so many years, and we had not been able to call any of our past residences our home. It was time to settle and nest; She convinced me that we should own a property of our own that we would be proud of living in for years. One that we could own outright and would not easily outgrow. We ended up splurging and purchased in cash two luxury cars for ourselves and set our sights on a large dream house in the city's Golf & Country Club, free and clear, for us and our two kids. I don't even play golf, nor do I even like it, but, if it makes her happy and it is within the safe margins of making it happen, I figured, why not? My concerns were largely financial and the numbers were adding up. It was a bit tight against my personal safe margins, but, at the same time, I was imagining to never have to make, or even have to think about, a car or home mortgage payment ever again! Bitcoin is on a roll and there is no sign of it stopping. Fine. Let's do it, before I change my mind. Now, I admit I was extremely lucky with choosing the time of when to sell the assets. I had no clue the market would take a dive in February, and so it seemed to many that I had timed the market perfectly, selling most of my coins in the first two weeks of January of 2018. Many called me a genius for selling at the very top, as if I had some sort of wisdom to know when it would drop; the truth is much less flattering; it was nothing but dumb luck, based on me wanting to pay taxes in 2018 and defer to 2019. Awesome, well done! Yeah? well, slow down, son, not so fast. So, I gather the 7-digit lumpsum in January 2018 and we write a check for the full amount at closing in February on the property of her dreams. A property that could easily be showcased on a luxury Real Estate magazine cover. Also, remember we had just moved back to the United States with just a few suitcases each from overseas. We had no furniture, kitchenware, curtains, TV's, bed sheets, winter clothing and so many other essential things that one usually purchases over time, but which we now had to purchase all at once. Not a problem, Bitcoin had dropped slightly but still well above $15k, I believe, at the time. And, earlier, in January, I had diligently taken this expense into account and effortlessly set aside a small fortune for equipping such a large house with everything we would ever need, brand new. It seemed we were protagonists of one of the Home Makeover Shows. Finally, after working day and night, prepping the house non-stop for days and when every piece of furniture had finally arrived, been unpacked and carried to its corresponding room, it seemed most of the essentials were in place and the hard work was done. I longed for pouring myself a Scotch and to finally sit down and enjoy the fruits of my labor. I head downstairs to the dedicated walk-in, cigar-humidor / wine / Scotch cellar in the basement and grab the better bottle of Whisky of the few bottles of Scotch that I had bought earlier in the week. On my way up, I remember feeling a sense of calm, combined with a glow of excitement and this undescribable profound inner peace, all at once. This was such a rare, natural, non-drug induced high that I had never experienced. It felt so good! This sense of accomplishment of achieving that one thing I had been chasing and longing for my entire life. I had expected I would be chasing this goal for the next 15-20 years, and yet, here it was. No, where I was, was even better than expected! A place where not even my parents, who still have to make their monthly mortgage payments. I had done it! With a smile from ear to ear, I take a deep breath of relief and while looking around the property, I think to myself: "It's perfect, everything is in place and I can finally call this our home. We are so lucky and we are going to live a great life. A life that few can only dream of. So many concerns will be lifted and become redundant. Everything will be better. I'll start a fire in one of our two fireplaces and I am going to begin enjoying my semi-retired life with the first sip of my drink. That will be the official start of our new life". I head over to the kitchen to get a glass and some ice cubes, while I struggle to find which one is the freezer among the many drawers in the kitchen. It was then when I notice a handwritten note placed front and center on the kitchen counter. It is from my wife and read: "There is no easy way to say this, so I am just going to say it..... I want to legally divorce [ ...]". It continued saying that she had taken our son, and had unequivocally decided to leave me. She had already filed the paperwork for divorce and that I should expect to be served in the morning. My bliss had lasted less than 5 minutes and in less than two seconds, it turned dark, somber and I saw it all crumbling down in front of me. Like a long-awaited rocket launch, years in preparation, which then unexpectedly explodes on the launch pad during the countdown. My stomach, heart and everything in my body just sank and melted into one ball of poison in my core. I felt like throwing up. I was completely blindsided; she had played the game all along, not giving me the slightest hint of what was being concocted in the background. She had already engaged with her lawyers weeks beforehand. Her mother was already in town from another state to help out with I don't know what. I had been gaslighted and was threatened by her that I needed to see a psychiatrist due to a change in my temper that I had supposedly developed - my temper was awesome: with BTC at that price? Everything was perfect! But I obeyed and went anyhow (this would later fit her story that she had to leave with the child because she feared for her safety due to my supposed temper for which I was under treatment, therefore, I must have this temper problem, see?). Also, the purchase of the overpriced home also seemed clearly premeditated: Price was the main driver of the decision making; not location, demographics, taxes, etc. It was the wrong neighborhood for us (people much older than us, retired, golfers and no kids the same age as our son to play with). Our house happened to also be the most expensive in the neighborhood. I can see it all so clearly now. See, your crypto coins on the blockchain, are not within the US court's jurisdiction (or, at least, it's quite debatable - a gray area - ask me for the seed and I can tell you that I may have the seed, or that I may not have the seed, I may have the wrong seed, I may have forgotten it, I may have lost it - you can't prove I did not forget, or lost it, etc). However, once it is in FIAT in a bank, or invested in a property, the courts can rule on the asset(s), freeze, disburse or order a sale of the property, etc. It's done all the time. Also, the coins were technically mine, and by definition private property (not to be divided during the divorce) as they were acquired before the marriage. I could not prove its origins (I bought many of them via direct messaging members on Bitcointalk.org and mining rather than exchanges, so no records, receipts or nothing to prove otherwise: the big exchanges like BitStamp and Coinbase didn't start operations till 2013, if I m not mistaken. Instead, I would talk to one of the forum members offering coins we'd agree on a price, I'd send a check to wherever the individual seller instructed me to (Russia, Bulgaria, Japan, UK. etc) and the coins would be deposited to whatever address I provided. Yes, it was quite crude at the time. However, once I converted my coins to cash and used that cash to buy a property for the benefit of the family, it became common property and thus she then had rights to a portion of it when divided between the two parties should a divorce occur - which ended up being almost 3/4 of all assets. I was robbed in broad daylight. By the one person, I trusted with my life. The one you should trust with your life. Your life partner. And while I was in complete denial, trying to bargain, I waited too long to obtain good legal representation. When I finally ended up getting a lawyer, I was quite distraught and I clearly did not do the proper research and this resulted in a less than stellar performance and detrimental to me at many key steps in the process. I had to switch legal representation right before mediation and I can't blame my new lawyer either, as (s)he did not have the required time to catch up on all the details, (s)he did his/her best, but I was ultimately strongarmed into conceding my soon-to-be-ex-wife to let her return to the house, in exchange to obtain 50% of my son's custody, with serious and strict clauses I had to abide by. So, I had to move out, find a hole in the wall in a student apartment, pay my rent and pay our kids pre-school, while she lives grandiose, without monthly payments in the country club, till the house sells, which will likely be in the spring of next year. Nice! Due to my delay, legal mishandling and somehow every other element in her favor, she inexplicably ended up with around 3/4 of the worth of all assets, free and clear, no taxes due. Mind you, she has never financially contributed, nor made a single $ during our entire marriage. She has never worked and had $0 in her pocket when we married. She didn't even have a checking account, well in her thirties. She is no dummy; she is street smart, knows how to manipulate people, get her way with flirting and charm, while I am more intellectual and book smart. and She beat me hands-down. She is walking away with a sum of, not quite 7 figures, but close. With what I am left with from the sale of the house, I am responsible to pay for all the capital gains taxes from the liquidation to the IRS, which are due in April 2019. I don't expect there to be more left over than the estimated $30k mentioned above. Hate the market all you want, I made peace with the market and am keeping busy at hating my ex for a while for putting me in the same situation. She tripped me 1 yard before the finish line and pushed me in the prickly bushes, to cross it by herself. Go figure. When I am done hating her, I'll get back to rebuilding my life again from scratch. I am not worried, I have done it before. Just pissed, I was so close and that I was so naive to not see it coming. Sorry, I am not meaning to hijack the thread, just wanted you to know that others may have lost more than just "free" money; money we didn't really have to work for. We were the lucky ones. It is what I keep telling myself to stop me from jumping off a bridge. PS - Woah: Sorry for the wall of text; I was just going to write the first paragraph and ended up venting about my current situation. I know, I should take this issue to /depressed, /exes or /whereisthenearestbridgeIcanjumpfrom. Hopefully, this can be a lesson to those holding crypto and some can learn what NOT to do. I learned the hard way and was left with nothing. Don't be a nice guy. Don't trust anyone with your crypto. Anyhow, I am sure either our vigilant subreddit bot, or one of the mods will remove my post for not adhering to rule, and if not, I am sure that you fine people will downvote me to hell. Go ahead. Take away from me the little Karma I left too! Thanks! I learned many lessons, but here are some key ones [IANAL - any crypto-educated AL opinion appreciated here, thanks] : - Understand the concept of private property - property you acquire before getting married. INAL - this depends on the state legislation, but it is hard to prove with crypto, especially if you obtained your crypto through foreign exchanges, outside of legal jurisdictions, the petitioner might not understand or willing to invest in obtaining subpoenas and requests to businesses operating overseas, as this may result costly. - Get a lawyer who understands, or is willing to understand crypto, its benefits of being somewhat unreachable and how that can work for you. Don't let them shortchange you with: "well, let's just convert the rest to cash, because that I understand" type of reasoning. - If you do go to mediation, the above applies as well. This arbitrator or mediator needs to be one that understands the intrinsic details of crypto - for example, during the ATH, I bought 6 digits worth in $USD of Stellar. I used the very first version of the software, supporting Stellar on my hardware device, and put it all in a cold storage wallet somewhere around January. I routinely checked on my coins on the blockchain and they are there. A few months later, I try to access my account and the device returns a different public address, which contains 0 funds. I am still trying to debug this issue with the manufacturer, but the fact is that I was accused of hiding these coins or negligence and was demanded that I paid half of what was lost. or not lost, out of my pocket for money that I didn't have access either. I tried to explain it in the simplest terms, there are risks involved with using first come software. There is no 1800 number, mo tech support. no CEO, no, you can't call the BBB and complain, etc and no one seemed to be able to understand, nor willing to either. It became a huge roadblock for which I had to concede, not cash, but a concession, I was not wanting to concede. The petitioner leaned on the fact that I was either wilfully cheating or stupid enough to lose the coins and managed to create enough doubt in my character and integrity and there was nothing rational I could explain that she, or anyone else in the room would understand. Perhaps mutually contracting a seasoned crypto expert that can offer a neutral view and give his/her opinion might be worth considering. Andreas, where were you when I needed you? :) - Other examples were some coins I had bought in 2012 and gifted to some of her family's kids. I was holding these, till they would turn 16 for them to pay themselves their college, or so I told them. These coins were demanded back by the petitioner. Ok, I suggested that I would send them, but with a CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY value with a block height of let's say,10 years from now, out of fear that she would spend the coins and the kids would never know (they are toddlers). No one understood what I was talking about, I was made out the crazy one, I gave up, sent her the coins, unlocked and, just as I expected, within 20 minutes of receiving them, she spent $1200 worth of it (for a flight, I think). If you are the only one speaking your language, no one is willing to listen or make an effort to understand you. - It appears my coins were private property, which means, that I acquired them before the marriage and in case of divorce, if I have not moved them or used them for the common good of the marriage, then they remain mine. However, I liquidated them and cash ended up in my checking account to be used to buy groceries, cars and eventually a house, and it is then that they became common property. Only once they landed in my checking account on which she is named on. It appears that had I taken proper legal precautions with documentation, or a company/trust, where that money would have gone, instead of my checking accounts, elsewhere, I would have still been able to be the legal proprietor of the resulting cash. I can't quite remember the details, but it as something that was explained to me afterward, and I honestly think I just tuned it out, because it made me sick to know I could have held on to my wealth. Perhaps a lawyer can chime in? Again, much of the lack of information and every misstep taken was because of dealing with people that are accustomed to traditional assets and will not deviate from it. Crypto is different and is treated differently. It is so important to know the strengths and weaknesses when going into litigation about something that people don't understand. - Some more I can think of, but this post is getting way out of hand in size. Feel free to comment/suggest your own and I'll add more to the comments. Credits to: u/nanoissuperior Thanks for your post, it inspired me to write this one. Anyone, any karma you feels needs to go his way, for providing the source of inspiration, please give to O-OP. TL;DR: Wife, having contributed $0 during entire marriage, waited until I cashed out all my crypto at the top of the bull market in January 2018, for a nice seven-figure amount, and then immediately divorced me for the money. Edit: added TL;DR
WARNING: If you try to use the Lightning Network you are at extremely HIGH RISK of losing funds and is not recommended or safe to do at this time or for the foreseeable future (274 points, 168 comments)
The guy who won this week's MillionaireMakers drawing has received ~$55 in BCH and ~$30 in BTC. It will cost him less than $0.01 to move the BCH, but $6.16 (20%) in fees to move the BTC. (164 points, 100 comments)
Do you think Bitcoin needs to increase the block size? You're in luck! It already did: Bitcoin BCH. Avoid the upcoming controversial BTC block size debate by trading your broken Bitcoin BTC for upgraded Bitcoin BCH now. (209 points, 194 comments)
Master list of evidence regarding Bitcoin's hijacking and takeover by Blockstream (185 points, 113 comments)
PSA: BTC not working so great? Bitcoin upgraded in 2017. The upgraded Bitcoin is called BCH. There's still time to upgrade! (185 points, 192 comments)
This sub is the only sub in all of Reddit that allows truly uncensored discussion of BTC. If it turns out that most of that uncensored discussion is negative, DON'T BLAME US. (143 points, 205 comments)
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10-17 10:33 - 'Whatever folks say about ALTS or Bitcoin it is all a diversion, truth be told. A tone of investors lost more than made investing and holding these digital fads, it is now a proven fake industry, a cesspool of scams. It was a...' by /u/HyperBrain removed from /r/Bitcoin within 15-25min
''' Whatever folks say about ALTS or Bitcoin it is all a diversion, truth be told. A tone of investors lost more than made investing and holding these digital fads, it is now a proven fake industry, a cesspool of scams. It was a huge transfer of capital, from unaware investors to shark traders and cryptopirates. Small trendy millennials believed they could become millionaires investing little and becoming multimillionaire traders next day, it all fell and still falling apart to this day! We have invested in several ALTS and BTC as well, we made and lost money in the same measure, it was a zero sum game, however for the time wasted in fact we lost more, never the less we are lucky! The majority lost BIG ! BTC lovers still brag that BTC is here to solve problems, without realising that the BTC games in fact has destroyed millions of small investors that believed on its utility, poor Joes got their capital sucked out by a small group or crypto PIRATES and shark traders! Any dissent opinion about cryptos or BTC is viciously oppose by this small percentage of 'smart or lucky' individuals that made money from this fake market. Which solutions BTC came to solve? So far there is NO real applications for it... and all the shitty ALTs follow the same recipe of fake promises to deceive its investors.
They said BTC to be decentralised - 90% is own by only 5% of all its holders.
BTC said to protect its investors anonymity - Today you even need to pay taxes on it, all your transactions can be traced.
BTC said to be way easier than regular payment methods - Until today I haven't seen how, a wireless touch card is superior and more secured.
Faster - Until today, credit card company can provide times over the transactions that BTC can manage.
Cheaper way to buy things - CCs is many times cheaper than BTC transactions.
Expensive to store - Exchanges charge HUGE percentages and costs to transfer, buy or store your imaginary tokens, more than allocated Gold.
Not secured - BTC can be hack from your computer, as the security seeds and passwords are so large that everything needs to be store in a computer which is open to be hacked.
You can lose everything - If you are unlucky to lose your password for your hard-wallet or software wallet, you will lose everything, there is NO call center or support team to help ya, once you lost it is GONE!
These are just some promises that this imaginary system has propagated. It seems that this whole industry was created to suck money from investors pure and simple, I haven't seen ANYTHING that shows me the contrary. Block chain is a system that can be replicated and built for any application, and that is exactly what will come out of this, big corporations and the government will use the technology to track every single move we make, and cryptocurrencies will be history. ''' Context Link Go1dfish undelete link unreddit undelete link Author: HyperBrain
11:37am If you can see this please send help, there’s hundreds of people trapped in a theme park and very weird things are happening. I'm using my phone so I'm sorry if there's any formatting errors! I’ll start at the beginning and get you up to date. A new theme park opened today. For its grand opening it had 75% off ticket prices, and because the theme park is mixed together with a zoo, that seemed like a bargain. I saw it advertised in an email from one of those “Student money saver” sites that send you coupons and special offers and things. It’s my wife’s birthday next week and we’ve just bought a house together so we’re broke. She said don’t bother with birthday gifts because the house is enough, but who doesn’t celebrate birthdays? Anyway, I ordered the tickets and got them sent to me in an email for me to print off at home. Amy’s into rollercoasters and thrills, I’m more into the animals.. So I guess this was the perfect park for us! The tickets said that because it was the grand opening, the gates would open at 10am and the celebrations would start with a parade, so it was recommended to get there for exactly 10am. We got there 15 minutes early and lined up behind what I’d estimate to be at least a few hundred other people, and more guests joined behind us. At 10am a little tune sounded over the speakers next to the gates as they automatically opened. We started making our way through to the entrance, where we scanned our tickets to gain entry. I didn’t realise at the time but there were no staff members.. Walking into the park everything looked so clean and newly built. We live about a half hour away and I’d passed this site a few times while it was under construction and remember being really curious as to what it was. This theme park, like I said, also features a zoo. But where most parks like this have the zoo separate to the rides, this one’s kind of intertwined and there’s a giant aquarium underground that the park’s built over that links about 10 massive tanks scattered around the park together. That’s the main reason I decided to buy the tickets; rollercoasters are rollercoasters but it’s not every day you see a zoo set up like this. It was one of these tanks I noticed first. it sits in the middle of the entrance and splits the path off two ways around the park. At first I noticed the size, this thing is absolutely huge, I’d say about 90ft wide and around 30 feat tall. It was full of coral and you could see where it goes under the grounds of the park which looks absolutely incredible. But there was no fish. I guess they were in another part of the aquarium, since it’s all linked together. People started wandering off to explore the park so Amy asked me where I want to go first. “I guess it doesn’t matter, we’re going to see it all anyway. Plus it’s your birthday treat so you can decide” I said. “Cool, Eagles claw first?” she replied. “Sure thing!” We turned left at the aquarium and walked for around 10 minutes past empty fields to the first ride. On the way there I noticed there were a bunch of buildings that seemed closed. “I guess they’re opening a little later” I thought, it’s the first day after all so there’s probably kinks they need to work out. As we got to the first ride there was a big crowd of people stood around it. “Hiya, what’s going on?” I asked a man at the back of the group who had his young daughter on his shoulders. “There’s no staff, how are we supposed to go on the rides?” he replied. This was when I realised that I hadn’t seen a member of staff since we came into the park, the digital ticket scanners threw me off I guess. Where were they? “I’m going back to the entrance to see if I can find anyone” the man shouted to the crowd, and he began walking back. Some of the group followed, some stayed to wait for staff members. Amy and I followed him to see if we could find anyone. I was starting to get a little unsettled but Amy didn’t seem to realise. I grabbed her hand and we followed the crowd back to the entrance. As we got closer to the buildings at the entrance we heard screams coming from the other path from the entrance, followed by people running. I grabbed amy’s hand tighter and started running towards the entrance to meet them there, a few of the group followed me. The gates were closed. No staff to be seen. “There was a huge bang and loads of smoke, people started screaming and running away” one woman struggled to explain through her heavy breathing. “Was anybody hurt? Has anyone phoned the emergency services?” The man with the child on his back asked. “I don’t know, smoke poured out of a shed, white smoke.. there was so much, it just enveloped everyone so quickly so we started running” she replied. A group of people had gotten their phones out and tried to phone for ambulances/police, but nobody could get through. I checked my phone, I had signal so I tried calling.. it just rang. Nobody answered. I tried messaging my little brother through facebook because he’s always on it. “I’m at that new theme park/zoo they’ve just built, there’s been an accident but we cant get through to an ambulance can you try? Signal might be weird here” *This message could not be sent. Retry?* I tapped retry. Almost immediately got the error message again. “ahh shit, I’ll try texting.” I told Amy. I tried to send the message again through text, it looked like it was sending but then *Message not sent* popped up in red underneath the message box. What the hell? BANG! The little “Emplyees only” box next to the entrance blew wide open and a thick white smoke gushed out. There was so much smoke, it shouldn’t have all fit inside that tiny shack. Everyone turned and started running away, knocking me off my feet. I quickly got up and started running with them to a nearby building. We poured inside and locked the door behind us. I was one of the last inside so I turned around to watch out the window to see the smoke. There was still people outside trying to run away and the smoke.. It didn’t just leave the shack and expand out, it sort of maintained a shape, like a giant snake made entirely of smoke, it followed the path around to the buildings as if it was chasing the people. Some people stopped outside the buildings and I could see another group of people were in a building further down, the people trapped outside were screaming, begging to be let in but the smoke was almost at the door so none of us near the door wanted to be the one to sacrifice everyone in the room for a couple of people outside. The smoke came so quickly, it engulfed the people in front of our building so quickly and made its way along the path to the next building. The entire front of the building was just white smoke, we couldn’t even see the people outside of the door anymore it was so thick. It was probably just seconds, but it felt like minutes that the smoke was passing in front of the building.. and then it passed. The people outside, they weren’t screaming anymore, they were just stood there, expressionless, looking at us. “What the fuck did it do to them!” “What’s wrong with them??” “Why are they just staring at us!” I heard people cry throughout the room. Turning to see where I was, it looked like a café that wasn’t fully finished. Painting was half done, there were chairs and tables in the corner of the room, a huge blackboard above what was probably supposed to be a checkout that featured no menu. Even worse, I couldn’t see Amy. I lost her when I fell over. I turned back to the people outside and she isn’t there though so she must be in that other building further down. With that the group outside all simultaneously turned and started walking to the left, towards the entrance. Within a few seconds they were gone. I tried to go to the door to find Amy but a group of people inside stopped me. “You aren’t going out there, nobody’s opening this door. We sit here and we wait for help!” a man shouted at me. I’m not one for confrontation so I just backed down. I sent a text to Amy – “Where are you? I got knocked down, are you safe? Are you inside??? I’ll come and find you, I love you xxx” *Message not sent*. I’ve been sat for 45 minutes. On my phone I can see the world happening but can’t interact, I can see Facebook updates from friends but cant message or upload my own status. Twitter’s the same. I tried Pokemon Go! to try and take my mind off what was happening. No Pokestops, great. My last go-to app was Coinbase… Bitcoin’s up 2.4%... I’m still not a millionaire but that’s a start I guess. I got bored of scrolling through facebook and twitter and decided to hit up Reddit instead. I scrolled for a few minutes before seeing a cat wanting attention, upvoted! …upvoted? I thought I couldn’t interact with the world.. but reddit seems to work? Maybe because I don’t use the Reddit App, maybe my web browser works normally? So here I am, writing this out to you to kill the time. 1:54pm. I’ve had a chat with “The man with the daughter”. He’s called Mark, his daughter’s Molly. If I had to describe him in a word it’d be “Lumberjack”. He’s about 6ft 5 tall and about the same wide, pure muscle mass. Molly’s almost 5, she likes dinosaurs and Moana. Her mum died a few months ago. Cancer. This is their first outing since, they moved up here a couple of years ago for Mark’s work. He’s a software engineer, imagine that.. A software engineer that can bench the weight of 3 people. Katie (his late wife) was diagnosed a couple of month after the move. All the while I can’t stop thinking about Amy, she must be in that building further down. But what if she isn’t? What if she was out of sight outside when the smoke hit. Anyway, thinking like that won’t help. Assume the best and prepare for the worst, right? Considering this building should be a café there’s a distinct lack of food here. Except for the packed lunch people brought. Myself included. Mark had packed lunch for him and Molly too, and we invited a couple over who were huddled together looking outside. I guess its best to pass the time together right now instead of dwelling on what we’ve seen. 4:18pm The couple are Greg and Lauren. They remind me of Amy and myself. Mid 20s, just started their careers and are looking to settle down into their life together. Greg’s in construction and Lauren sells beauty products. Greg plays Fallout and World of Warcraft, so we’ve got mutual interests. 10:04pm Mark, Molly, Greg, Lauren and myself have kind of made a group now. Emergency services still aren’t here, and why would they be? Nobody can contact them. How are we supposed to get out of here? Anyway. The room full of people have spread out, we’ve made a kind of camp here and luckily we all have enough space to lay down so we can sleep. There’s a bathroom with running water so we’re good for that, but food’s going to run out. Luckily I’m a big guy who shopped while hungry for our packed lunch, and even though I shared my food with Greg and Lauren, I still have enough to last me tomorrow too. Mark and Molly are almost out, they’ve got sandwiches left for breakfast. I’ll share my food with them after that. I hope Amy’s okay. I’ll update you guys tomorrow. Maybe I’ll be a bitcoin millionaire, or who knows, there might suddenly be a Pokestop right outside. A guy can dream haha. 2:40am There was another bang in the distance, I hope everyone’s okay.
u/guysir was getting downvoted in this thread for constantly asking "Can you explain why someone would have the desire for Bitcoin to die?" So I put together a couple of pointers to help him (and others like him) to wake up and smell the coffee.
TL;DR: If you just want a 3-minute (NSFW) video which explains why certain rich assholes don't want you to have nice things, here goes: George Carlin - The big club (NSFW!!!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUaqFzZLxU Reference: u/guysir has been asking a lot of questions like this:
Can you explain why [they] would have the desire for Bitcoin to die? Edit: I like how I'm being downvoted for simply asking a question.
~ u/guysir https://np.reddit.com/btc/comments/6qjw0o/small_blockers_want_even_smaller_blocks_o_o/dkxz7t3/?context=2 etc etc etc... Below are some introductory lessons to help u/guysir grow up and face the reality of how the world actually works. Lesson 1: Money doesn't grow on trees. Nor does it get mined from the ground very much anymore, as gold and silver. (Correction because I was half-asleep when I wrote that: Gold and silver still do get mined quite a bit of course - but most people don't use them day-to-day as money.) And gold and silver prices are probably heavily manipulated (suppressed) these days anyways - in order to prevent the value of fiat currencies (such as the USD, EUR, GBP, YEN) from collapsing. So, where does money come from, in the modern world? Bankers print unlimited supplies of money out of thin air (which they then give to their buddies). That may sound somewhat surprising to someone who hasn't ever sat down and examined how the world actually works - but basically, it's the reality we do live in. Exercise 1: Put on your thinking cap now for 30 seconds and try to imagine what your life would be like if you could "print money out of thin air" (and give it to your buddies). OK, your 30 seconds are up. Hopefully you realized that being able to "print money out of thin air" (and give it to your buddies) would give you immense power - correct? This was just a simple exercise, and of course the politics and economics of the world as a whole are much more complicated - but hopefully at this point you have managed to finally grasp one basic concept: The ability to print money (and give it to your buddies) confers great power. So, as the saying goes: "Money makes the world go around." And some lucky people (bankers) have arrogated to themselves the right to print money (which they then give to their buddies). These buddies of theirs constitute a kind of exclusive club of mega-rich people who control all the essentials which you need to survive: mainly housing, education, healthcare. Notice how the prices of these essentials are always going through the roof - while your salary stays pretty much stagnant. And notice how you never have enough cash to buy these things outright using the little bit of cash money that you actually have. So these people also control one other thing you need in life - credit. Credit is actually just "money that you have to buy" (at a gigantic markup, called "interest") from those same mega-rich people in that "club", who happen to be lucky enough to be buddies with the bankers who "print up money out of thin air". It's a very exclusive club, which runs the world - and you ain't in it. Extracurricular Activity 1: Watch this short video by George Carlin for a vivid explanation of this "club" which you ain't in: George Carlin - The big club (NSFW!!!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUaqFzZLxU Lesson 2: Bitcoin is "peer-to-peer electronic cash". One of the most important aspects of it is that there will only be 21 million bitcoins (or 21 trillion "bits" - where there are a million "bits" in 1 bitcoin). Many people believe that one of the main reasons Satoshi designed Bitcoin this way (with a cap of 21 million bitcoins) was to take away the power of the bankers and their buddies to keep running the world by printing up money. Exercise 2: Read as much as you can of the Bitcoin whitepaper, and the Bitcoin wiki. Since this is about economics, you can skip over the technical stuff about how this whole thing was programmed in C++ - and just focus on how it works at the level of economics. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Main_Page https://www.bitcoin.com/bitcoin.pdf Another good site to read about the economic aspects of Bitcoin is Nakamoto Institute: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/ Again, you can skip the articles about C++ programming - and just focus on articles dealing with the economic (and social, and political) aspects of having a form of money which an exclusive club of rich bankers and their buddies can't simply print up and use to control your life. Extracurricular Activity 2: Read (or watch a video) about The Creature from Jekyll Island or about the Federal Reserve - which explains how the current banking system in a powerful country (the USA) really works: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=creature+jekyll+island&t=hb&ia=web https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=crature+from+jekyll+island https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=federal+reserve+conspiracy Or, alternatively, read up on topics like the petrodollar, quantitative easing, fractional reserve, ZIRP and NIRP, the Austrian school of economics - to start understanding some of the more advanced topics of how a certain exclusive club of bankers arrogate to themselves the right to print money out of thin air (which they then hand out to their buddies, who then use this power to control your access to all the expensive essentials in life). Yes, there's a lot of tinfoil or Illuminati stuff in there which could be just delusional paranoia - but there's also a lot of cold hard facts about where money comes from. And it doesn't come from trees - or out of the ground - instead, it just comes from bankers typing in numbers on a keyboard, and then handing out this freshly-printed money to their friends - who then use this "fiat" to control you. Lesson 3: Do a search on this subreddit for "AXA" to learn more about this one particular company. https://np.reddit.com/btc/search?q=axa&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all You will see that AXA isn't just any old insurance company or financial firm - it actually happens to be the second-most-connected financial company in the world.
Who owns the world? (1) Barclays, (2) AXA, (3) State Street Bank. (Infographic in German - but you can understand it without knowing much German: "Wem gehört die Welt?" = "Who owns the world?") AXA is the #2 company with the most economic poweconnections in the world. And AXA owns Blockstream.
If Bitcoin becomes a major currency, then tens of trillions of dollars on the "legacy ledger of fantasy fiat" will evaporate, destroying AXA, whose CEO is head of the Bilderbergers. This is the real reason why AXA bought Blockstream: to artificially suppress Bitcoin volume and price with 1MB blocks.
https://np.reddit.com/btc/comments/4r2pw5/if_bitcoin_becomes_a_major_currency_then_tens_of/?ref=search_posts Lesson 4: How do debt-based fiat currencies (and derivatives) work? And how could companies that depend on such "assets" (such as AXA) be negatively affected by Bitcoin? Derivatives are basically the total opposite of Bitcoin, when it comes to something called "counterparty risk" . Counterparty risk is the possibility that you might not get what's owed to you - because "your money" isn't actually in your hands, it's in someone else's hands, and all you have is a "claim" on what they're holding in their hands: in other words, they have a debt to you (a promise to pay you) - and you only get "your" money if that other "counterparty" actually pays their debt to you, or makes good on their promise to pay you. Compare that to Bitcoin - which is basically one of the only "counterparty-free" assets in the world. If you have a bitcoin (ie, if you control your own private key), then you're not dependent on anybody to pay you. You already are holding your own "cash". You've probably seen company balance sheets, with Assets (including Receivables) and Liabilities (including Payables) and Income and Expenses and Equity. To calculate how much the company "has", you just add up all the positive stuff (Assets and Receivables), then subtract all the negative stuff (Liabilities and Payables), and the difference is what the company "has": its Equity. (The Income and Expense accounts are just temporary accounts used for incoming and outgoing cash flows.) But a lot of what the company "has" also could involve "counterparties" - other entities who (in the future) will (hopefully) come through and pay what they promised to pay. So there is risk here. Risk of not getting paid. Risk of breach of contract. Risk of credit default. Because most of these "assets" are not "counterparty-free". Your "net worth" on paper might be just that: on paper. In reality (if the people who promised to pay you end up never paying you), then your "net worth" could actually turn out to be much less than what it says "on paper". Derivatives are just another layer built on top of that: they're basically "bets" about whether someone is actually going to get paid or not. (In fact, one of the most important types of derivatives are Credit Default Swaps - or CDOs - which are used to place "bets" on whether someone is going to default on their debts.) So, a company like AXA (which is heavily involved in derivativs) is technically "rich" - but only "on paper". In reality, like most major financial firms, if you just looked at what they actually have "on hand", they'd probably literally be bankrupt. This may sound shocking, but many economic experts have stated that a majority of the major financial firms around the world (including most major banks, and most major insurance firms such as AXA) are actually bankrupt - if you just look at the reality of what they actually have "on hand" (and not the "fantasy" of what they have "on paper"). So, in addition to the ability to print money out of thin air, there is this other strange aspect to the world's current financial system: many companies (mainly finance companies) would be considered bankrupt if viewed strictly in terms of what they have "on hand" ... but they're are able to parade around acting like they're mega-rich, based on what they have "on paper" (most of which is debt-based or derivatives-based). Bitcoin coin is a major threat to the existing power system based on debt and dervatives - which AXA is at the absolute center of So, the people who are supposedly "powerful", who run our world - their power comes from two sources:
Their ability to print up money out of thin air;
Debt-based and derivatives-based numbers on paper.
Bitcoin threatens the first item above. And the global financial crisis which started in 2008 threatens the second item above. In fact, Bitcoin itself also probably threatens the second item above too. This is because as Bitcoin becomes worth more and more, those debt-based and derivatives-based numbers on paper become worth less and less, in relative terms. And if the current financial crisis becomes acute again (like it did when another "systemically important" insurance company / derivatives "playa" went under: AIG)... ...then a lot of those numbers on balance sheets will get wiped out, written off - because people aren't paying up ...and so companies (including companies like AXA - in fact especially companies like AXA) might go belly up ...because they don't actually have any real money "on hand" - all they have is debt-based and derivatives-based numbers on paper. So nearly all of the world's major banks and insurance companies - especially AXA - are on a mad, mad merry-go-round of debt and derivatives. They're like someone with no cash, living on an almost-maxxed-out credit card - desperately hoping that the banks will lend give them more money (a/k/a "credit" - a/k/a debt), and terrified that the counterparties who owe them money will actually turn out to be in the same boat that they are: ie, bankrupt, deadbeats. It's actually less like a merry-go-round, and more like a game of musical chairs: and nearly all the major banks and financial companies are terrified of what will happen if/when the music stops, and they're not able to scramble to find a chair - especially AXA. AXA is the "second-most-connected" financial company in the world AXA also has more derivatives than any other insurance company in the world - which means they're basically flat-broke, totally dependent on their "counterparties" in this "web of debt". And derivatives aren't just some minor part of the world financial system. Actually, there is currently around 1.2 quadrillion dollars in derivatives - so derivatives are by far the biggest part of the world financial system. Here's an infographic to give you an idea: http://money.visualcapitalist.com/all-of-the-worlds-money-and-markets-in-one-visualization/ You'll notice that Bitcoin is also included on that infographic. Maybe you look at it and think: Well, Bitcoin is so small, why would they be worried about it? But size isn't everything. Remember that (unlike nearly every other asset on that infographic) - bitcoin is "counterparty-free". (Also gold and silver are "counterparty-free".) So gold, silver and bitcoin are a lot more "independent" than all the other so-called "assets" on that infographic. In fact, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to say that gold, silver and bitcoin are the only totally real assets on that infographic - and the rest of those assets are to some degree fake (since they could evaporate at any minute - unlike gold, silver and bitcoin, where your ownership is totally guaranteed). Also, due to the "law of reversion to mean", something small on that infographic basically has only one direction it can go: towards getting bigger. We say that Bitcoin has a lot of "upside" for growth. And something gigantic on that infographic also has one direction it can go: towards getting smaller. We say that derivatives have a lot of downside - derivatives might be in a bubble, or due for a crash. And one way that could easily happen would be for billions of dollars (or trillions of dollars) to flow into Bitcoin - while flowing out of the other asset classes on that infographic. Of course, in order for trillions of dollars to flow into Bitcoin... We're gonna need a bigger blocksize. And that's actually basically all we'd probably need - the software already runs fine, and (despite the propaganda from Blockstream and r\bitcoin), the network / hardware / infrastructure / bandwidth can already handle blocksizes of 4MB-8MB - so with things like Moore's law working in tandem with Metcalfe's law, it is quite reaonable to assume that in 8-10 years (after the next two Bitcoin "halvings") it is quite possible for 1 bitcoin to be worth 1 million US Dollars. I did some rough growth projections here showing how feasible this actually is:
Bitcoin Original: Reinstate Satoshi's original 32MB max blocksize. If actual blocks grow 54% per year (and price grows 1.542 = 2.37x per year - Metcalfe's Law), then in 8 years we'd have 32MB blocks, 100 txns/sec, 1 BTC = 1 million USD - 100% on-chain P2P cash, without SegWit/Lightning or Unlimited
https://np.reddit.com/btc/comments/5uljaf/bitcoin_original_reinstate_satoshis_original_32mb/ So Bitcoin (with bigger blocks - not under the control of Blockstream or AXA) could be a serious competitor - or a threat - or a safe haven - or an "inversely correlated" asset class - versus all the other asset classes on that infographic. Bitcoin is an alternative Bitcoin is an alternative - an option people might turn to, if they decide to abandon the other options on that infographic. So AXA - whose wealth and power depends on heavily on the derivatives shown in that infographic - might want to either see Bitcoin fail, or suppress Bitcoin, or eliminate it as an alternative, or simply control it somehow - just to make sure it doesn't "eat their lunch". Remember that one of the tactics used by oppressors is to spread propaganda to brainwash you into giving up hope and believing that "There Is No Alternative". Bitcoin is an alternative to the current messed-up financial system (which helps prop up bankrupt companies like AXA) - so for that reason alone it's enough for a company like AXA to want to eliminate or suppress or at least control Bitcoin. Not just by buying up some bitcoins - but by paying the devs who write the code that determines the blocksize which ultimately affects the price. "Bitcoin users unaffected." If/when the music stops in the game of debt- and derivatives-backed musical chairs that makes the world go 'round, some of the "systemically important" financial firms will be exposed as being bankrupt - and it is very, very likely that one of those firms could be AXA (just like AIG in 2008). In all honesty, I have to admit that it's still not totally clear to me (or maybe to anyone) precisely how Bitcoin will ultimately impact this whole "web of debt". After all, this is the first time the world has ever had a digital, counterparty-free asset like Bitcoin. (Gold and silver are also counterparty-free - but they're not digital, so it's harder to store them and move them around.) But one basic fact is certain: Bitcoin is really not a part of this whole "web of debt". Bitcoin stands quite outside this whole "web of debt". Bitcoin is "inversely correlated" to this whole "web of debt". Bitcoin is an alternative. Voice and Exit If you feel like you don't have a voice / vote in the system, it's good to know that you can exit the system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit,_Voice,_and_Loyalty Balaji Srinivasan (founder of 21.co) on Voice and Exit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOubCHLXT6A Can we ever really know what AXA might be up to with Bitcoin? Probably not - because it is unlikely that they would ever tell us. But, we can make some rational guesses. On some level, a lot of people whose wealth and power come from this whole "web of debt" are probably just reasoning as follows:
If/when this whole "web of debt" goes down, Bitcoin goes up. (This is already pretty much an established fact: money flees to "safe havens" like gold, silver and bitcoin when "traditional" investments go down.)
If/when Bitcoin goes up, then the importance and power (and credibility) of this whole "web of debt" goes down. (This makes sense: being counterparty-free, bitcoin is obviously a safer investment - and so it's worth more - and so all those other debt-based and derivatives-based investments become worth less, as bitcoin becomes worth more.)
If Bitcoin goes down (or totally goes away), then this whole "web of debt" will probably be able to hang on for a while longer. (This also be more of just just a conjecture - but it seems quite reasonable.)
Maybe they just want to keep you trapped in their system - by destroying (or suppressing) the alternative (Bitcoin) which gives you a chance to exit their system. Some more posts about AXA and what they might be up to: Anyways, there's a bunch of articles on btc about AXA and what they might be up to with Bitcoin: https://np.reddit.com/btc/search?q=axa&restrict_sr=on Finally, if you need some extra help dispelling the quaint notion that the people who run the world are honest and transparent and helpful, then the following two (admittedly highly conjectural) posts might help spell things out a bit more explicitly for you:
Blockstream may be just another Embrace-Extend-Extinguish strategy.
The owners of Blockstream are spending $75 million to do a "controlled demolition" of Bitcoin by manipulating the Core devs & the Chinese miners. This is cheap compared to the $ trillions spent on the wars on Iraq & Libya - who also defied the Fed / PetroDollar / BIS private central banking cartel.
https://np.reddit.com/btc/comments/48vhn0/the_owners_of_blockstream_are_spending_75_million/ Sorry I don't have any more time right now to "school" you further on this subject. Ideally, learning should be a self-driven process anyways - once someone helps you get started. Some advice Finally, if I may give you some parting advice. If you want to be truly respected on these forums, you're probably going to have to stop going around acting like such a doe-eyed innocent little pollyanna. It is assumed that most people here already pretty much know the harsh reality of how the world works, and are trying to use Bitcoin as a way to not get screwed over by this harsh reality. So some of the more informed people around here might not have much patience with you (or trust in you) if you don't even understand the basic principles outlined above, namely:
Our planet is being run by an exclusive club of rich assholes who have immense power, because we "allow" them to print out money (which they then hand out to their buddies, not to us - basically enslaving us).
Bitcoin was designed (many believe) to help fix this dire situation.
The ancien régime (those people who up till now who have been running the world, due to their ability to print money) might not like Bitcoin for this reason, and might try to do something to stop it - and they might not tell you why they're doing it - and they might not even tell you that they are doing it in the first place!
Sorry to be such a curmudgeon, but pollyannas like you tend to get on my nerves after a while - not least because it seems to me that one of the factors which allows those rich assholes to continue to stay in power and run the world is because so many uninformed credulous people like you either can't or won't just wake up and open your goddamn eyes and see how you're getting fucked over by this whole "web of debt" based around that exclusive "club" of rich assholes who get free money which the bankers are simply printing up out of thin air. So, 99% of people in the world are living lives of quiet desperation and oppression, becoming poorer and poorer - while the rich keep getting richer and richer (with all that money they keep printing out of thin air - which by the way, if you do the math, ends up making your money worth less) - and now there are finally some serious attempts at revolution or change afoot, to try to fix some of this mess - and you've just wandered in to a meeting where some of these people struggling for change are making plans, and you basically keep going around asking "What are you guys so worked up about?" Maybe if you also realized that you are saying the exact same thing that the oppressors are always saying (basically some variation of "Nothing to see here, move on!") - then maybe that will provide another hint to you as to why some people have been less-than-totally-welcoming of your non-stop naïve-sounding questions. Every subreddit has a topic - plus certain assumptions For comparison: Would you wander around on a subreddit about fitness or weightlifting constantly asking: "Why do you want to get in shape?"? (Or maybe here's an even better comparison: Would you wander around on a subreddit for some oppressed group, and keep asking "Why would anyone be oppressing you?"?) There are certain "givens" which are assumed on a subreddit - and one of the "givens" for a lot of people on this subreddit is that the current monetary regime running the world is not working for most people (or: it is oppressing most people), and so we need something better. (Also another one of the "givens" is that r\bitcoin is censoring everyone's posts - and that Blockstream is damaging Bitcoin.) Nobody is forcing you to get into fitness or weightlifting - and nobody is forcing you to get into Bitcoin. Maybe you think your physique is already fine the way it is, so you don't see the point of fitness or bodybuilding - and maybe you think that VISA and PayPal and JPMorganChase and Wells Fargo and the Fed and the ECB or whatever are fine for you, so you don't see the point of Bitcoin. (Or maybe you were born a millionaire so you don't feel financially oppressed.) You're free to get involved or not get involved. Most people who are here are involved for some particular reason. And whatever that reason may be, it usually tends to involve using Bitcoin as it was designed in the whitepaper - in order to improve their lives. And part of this also means actually using Bitcoin as it was designed in the whitepaper - free of any interference from companies like Blockstream - or their financial backers AXA - who might not really want us to be able to use Bitcoin the way it was designed in the whitepaper. In particular, it has been quite obvious for years to people on btc that the actions of r\bitcoin and Blockstream have been damaging to Bitcoin (whatever their actual motives may be - which we may ultimately never even be able to find out since they're probably never going to actually tell us) - but meanwhile we've had to fight tooth and nail to get a vast brainwashed army of pollyannas - a lot of whom quite frankly sound a lot like you - to understand that Satoshi did not design Bitcoin to work like this:
Every Core supporter wants to run their own node. Apparently to help banks settle transactions, instead of their own transactions.
Bitcoin Original: Reinstate Satoshi's original 32MB max blocksize. If actual blocks grow 54% per year (and price grows 1.542 = 2.37x per year - Metcalfe's Law), then in 8 years we'd have 32MB blocks, 100 txns/sec, 1 BTC = 1 million USD - 100% on-chain P2P cash, without SegWit/Lightning or Unlimited
https://np.reddit.com/btc/comments/5uljaf/bitcoin_original_reinstate_satoshis_original_32mb/ We all have our own reasons for being here. So hopefully that gives you some background regarding why many people are here on this subreddit in the first place, and what some of our goals and desires are. We want to use Bitcoin - and we don't want the bankers funding Blockstream or the censors silencing r\bitcoin to get in our way. We understand that Bitcoin is a disruptive technology which could be liberating and empowering for many of us in various ways. We are realistic about the fact (ie, we take it as a "given") that certain powerful individuals or institutions might not want us to be empowered and liberated like this (maybe because their power depends on our enslavement). And so we allow for the possibility that certain powerful individuals or institutions might be trying to stop us - and that they might not even have the courtesy to inform us that they are trying to stop us. I should of course clarify that these are ultimately really only my reasons for being on this forum. Other people may have their own reasons - some the same as me, and some different from me - and so I can only speak for myself. It is important for all of us - me, you and everyone else - to have a clear understanding of why we are here. In particular, if you - u/guysir - ever felt like giving people a brief explanation of why you are here - then that might help people understand why you keep asking the kind of questions you keep asking. Why people are rejecting Blockstream's heavily modified version of Bitcoin - and sticking with Satoshi's original version of Bitcoin (now called Bitcoin Cash or BCC) The above reasons are why many of us will not use AXA-owned Blockstream's Bitcoin. We want to continue using Satoshi's original Bitcoin, now being renamed Bitcoin Cash (ticker: BCC, or BCH) - because we want to continue to enjoy the benefits of:
simple & safe on-chain scaling for cheaper and faster p2p transactions and higher value for our bitcoins, and
Hi Bitcoiners! I’m back with the twelfth monthly Bitcoin news recap. (Yes I'll keep doing these in 2018) For those unfamiliar, each day I pick out the most popularelevant/interesting stories in bitcoin and save them. At the end of the month I release them in one batch, to give you a quick (but not necessarily the best), memeless overview of what happened in bitcoin over the past month. You can find recaps of the previous months on Bitcoinsnippets.com A recap of Bitcoin in December 2017
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Invest only the minimum $250 when you’re getting used to how this investment option works. The system is pretty much idiot-proof, but there are still some manual controls before you set it to Auto-Trade, so you want to make sure you have those under control before risking more than the minimum deposit.
Withdraw half of what you win, at least. A great way to ensure that you make money with long term trading positions is to try to make enough money to cover your initial deposit. That way you know you’ll always break even. Anything extra you might make is gravy. Don’t get caught in a situation where you reinvest 100% of your earnings. You might lose it all, and then where would you be?
4. Make sure you are using the real Bitcoin Formula. There are many imitators out there, pretending to be the real Bitcoin Formula. Some of these are scams, and that’s probably why there are internet accusations out there calling this platform a scam. This software is definitely legit, but only if you’re using the real thing! 5. Withdraw frequently. Websites can crash, especially if they’re as popular and fast-growing as this one. Make sure you always have access to your cash by withdrawing it every day or two. Once the money hits your bank account, it’s yours forever (or at least until you spend it!). 6. Compare Bitcoin Formula to other highly recommended crypto robots like Bitcoin Aussie System and Bitcoin Code to find the one that works best for your preferences and personal trading style. If you are looking for other reliable and profitable robots, check out our bitcoin robot page to see what’s on offer.✅✅[link]1
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''' Bitcoin Formula is making people rich And you can be the next millionaire ...See what the famous people will say Yes, it’s possible to get rich with Bitcoin Formula. Of course, it isn’t as easy as that, you’ll need some tips and tricks to get the most out of this platform. Here are some of the best we’ve learned. 1. Use the demo account before risking any money. Most people have never worked with auto-pilot trading robots before, so you want to make sure you understand how this all works before putting any money at risk. 2. Invest only the minimum $250 when you’re getting used to how this investment option works. The system is pretty much idiot-proof, but there are still some manual controls before you set it to Auto-Trade, so you want to make sure you have those under control before risking more than the minimum deposit. 3. Withdraw half of what you win, at least. A great way to ensure that you make money with long term trading positions is to try to make enough money to cover your initial deposit. That way you know you’ll always break even. Anything extra you might make is gravy. Don’t get caught in a situation where you reinvest 100% of your earnings. You might lose it all, and then where would you be? 4. Make sure you are using the real Bitcoin Formula. There are many imitators out there, pretending to be the real Bitcoin Formula. Some of these are scams, and that’s probably why there are internet accusations out there calling this platform a scam. This software is definitely legit, but only if you’re using the real thing! 5. Withdraw frequently. Websites can crash, especially if they’re as popular and fast-growing as this one. Make sure you always have access to your cash by withdrawing it every day or two. Once the money hits your bank account, it’s yours forever (or at least until you spend it!). 6. Compare Bitcoin Formula to other highly recommended crypto robots like Bitcoin Aussie System and Bitcoin Code to find the one that works best for your preferences and personal trading style. If you are looking for other reliable and profitable robots, check out our bitcoin robot page to see what’s on offer. ✅✅[link]1 ''' Context Link Go1dfish undelete link unreddit undelete link Author: rspatrick8 1: q**w*r*dwit.com Unknown links are censored to prevent spreading illicit content.
Jobs4Bitcoins – Reddit Forum where you can find jobs paid in Bitcoins. We have actually hired writers for Bitcoin Millionaire from Jobs4Bitcoins. Marketplace – Bitcoin Talk Forum (post your own job your want if one does not exist already). Email Bitcoin websites with content and ask if they need a writer (I have done/do this). I sit down with an anonymous Bitcoin millionaire who turned a $3,000 investment into $25 million and a brand new, luxury-filled life. This is his story. Bitcoin is a distributed, worldwide, decentralized digital money. Bitcoins are issued and managed without any central authority whatsoever: there is no government, company, or bank in charge of Bitcoin. You might be interested in Bitcoin if you like cryptography, distributed peer-to-peer systems, or economics. Bitcoin is a distributed, worldwide, decentralized digital money. Bitcoins are issued and managed without any central authority whatsoever: there is no government, company, or bank in charge of Bitcoin. You might be interested in Bitcoin if you like cryptography, distributed peer-to-peer systems, or economics. The British millionaire and entrepreneur Sir Peter Jones hasn't invested in any automatic trading software either. Bitcoin Revolution Reddit. There are other sites such as reddit that also
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